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Very low outlet water flow at one unit

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GeorgeH

posts 47

1:14 pm June 5, 2011

Hello Steve,

This is a 25 year old system.  One water pump tees off to two Marine Air CM16H units.  Water flow at outlet of aft unit has always been less than forward unit [last four years] but in last two weeks is markedly less.  Aft unit starts normally and begins to cool, but trips the breaker after less than five minutes.  Forward unit functions normally.  The inlet seacock, strainer and cooling water pump are all located within ten feet of the forward unit.  The aft unit is about 35 feet away from the forward seacock/pump/strainer.  We clean the strainer weekly with current high water temps, and notice barnacle growth inside the strainer in last two weeks with sea water temps now above 80 degrees F.  We also clean the air filters on a regular basis.  Have done no other maintenance on either unit, except to replace one thermostat sender.  Boat is in SC in the winter/spring and New England in summer.  Assume we have a marine growth problem in hoses and/or condenser coils.  Read your cautions about acid cleaning.  Spoke to Marine Air service four years ago and they said maybe not to acid clean units because of age [25 years now] and cleaning might start leaks.  So what to do?  Can I use something Barnacle Buster, PhosphoRic, or Rydlyme safely?  Could that solve the problem, or am I dealing with possibly some other issue?  

Thanks in advance,  George

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Steve Pooler

posts 1127

9:44 am June 6, 2011

Hi George~

If you see barnacle growth in the strainer…Then that's likely what is clogging the hose…They usually don't grow in the condenser coil itself because it's too hot when running… You can identify barnacles in the hoses by squeezing them at different locations with a pair of channel locks or wise grips (lightly) and listen for crunching…If you hear crunching STOP and flush…I've had guys think they can crunch the barnacles to remove them, but all that seems to do is have them lodge in one spot and now you have no flow…Not even enough to get the treatment to the clog….

I don't think I'd worry too much about causing leaks…The condenser is made of Cupronickel which is very tough stuff…Plus if it's that thin…The unit wouldn't last much longer anyway…We flush old units all the time…

Re-circulating any of the products you mention for several hours should solve your problem…

You can also replace the hoses if they look cracked or weak in any way, but I would still flush the units to remove any scale that will act as an insulating blanket preventing proper heat transfer to the water…

 

Steve~

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GeorgeH

posts 47

11:05 am June 6, 2011

Hi Steve,

Thanks for getting back to be so quickly.  Yes, I hear a bit of crunching when compressing at least one of the hoses, so will give the treatment a try. 

George

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GeorgeH

posts 47

1:29 pm June 6, 2011

Hi again Steve,

If I go the route of replacing the hoses, what type do you suggest? Currently have 3/4" wire exhaust hose on runs to both units, and then 5/8" wire exhaust hose from units to overboard discharge.

Also, on my aft unit, water flows overboard there even when only the forward unit is running.  So I assume that water is running through the aft condenser coil, but not heated, so perhaps there is marine growth there because of that?

Thanks again, George

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Steve Pooler

posts 1127

2:06 pm June 6, 2011

Post edited 2:07 pm – June 6, 2011 by Steve Pooler


GeorgeH said:

Hi again Steve,

If I go the route of replacing the hoses, what type do you suggest? Currently have 3/4" wire exhaust hose on runs to both units, and then 5/8" wire exhaust hose from units to overboard discharge.…You can pretty much use any kind of hose as long as it does not let light in…I prefer Black Rubber over a Vinyl or PVC based hose…Barnacles seem to grow quicker with light & they also seem to love to stick to PVC or Vinyl…  

Also, on my aft unit, water flows overboard there even when only the forward unit is running.  So I assume that water is running through the aft condenser coil, but not heated, so perhaps there is marine growth there because of that?…Yes that is true…But in over 25 years I have only seen barnacles grow in a condenser that the unit had not worked in years but others supplied by the same pump did…Hard Water Scale is usually the problem in the condenser itself.

Thanks again, George

 

This link will tell you why water pumps thru that aft unit with only the fwd unit running: http://marine-ac.com/marine-ac…..mp-relays/

 

Steve~

 


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