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Installing Marine Air VTD12K-410A

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Steve Pooler

posts 1127

11:40 am January 17, 2012

Well George…Last we knew you were close… Wink

So How's the project coming ???

Just checkin in  Cool

 

Steve 

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GeorgeH

posts 47

6:31 pm January 18, 2012

Hi Steve,

I've been away from the boat for a week, but I will be back there tomorrow.  I'll let you know how it works out.

– George

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Steve Pooler

posts 1127

9:10 pm January 18, 2012

Thanks George Laugh

Looking Fwd to hear how you feel it compares to your old unit…

 

Steve~

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GeorgeH

posts 47

1:13 pm January 27, 2012

Hi Steve,

Yes!  Finally all installed and running.  Getting the four way splitter made and installed, and the new ducting fitted and run took some time.  The new Passport control works very, very nicely.  So far I would say substituting the new 12K for the old 16K has worked out well.  The compressor is very quiet, only noise is the fan.  I'm using the default settings of the Passport control right now — no need to change those as far as I can tell.  I see a small red light inside the electrical box, when it is opened up and the unit on  – assume that is normal?  Would it be possible to trade out my old three knob control on my fwd unit for the same Passport control?  And if so is that difficult to do?

Many thanks again!

George

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Steve Pooler

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2:43 pm January 27, 2012

Post edited 2:51 pm – January 27, 2012 by Steve Pooler


That's Great News George  Cool

 

GeorgeH said:

Hi Steve,

Yes!  Finally all installed and running.  Getting the four way splitter made and installed, and the new ducting fitted and run took some time.  The new Passport control works very, very nicely.  So far I would say substituting the new 12K for the old 16K has worked out well.  The compressor is very quiet, only noise is the fan.  I'm using the default settings of the Passport control right now — no need to change those as far as I can tell.  I see a small red light inside the electrical box, when it is opened up and the unit on  – assume that is normal?…Yes it indicates the board is getting power… Would it be possible to trade out my old three knob control on my fwd unit for the same Passport control?…Yes… And if so is that difficult to do?…No not hard at all…You would need  the kit/part # 223100262 listed on the upper part of page 12 of the Marine Airrr price book: http://marine-ac.com/2011-offi…..ing-parts/ …I do discount the controls but the discount is 5% less than on units 

What comes in the kit is listed at the bottom of that section…In your case with the plug in 3 knob it should be pretty much Plug & Play swap out.

 

Many thanks again!

George

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Steve Pooler

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3:10 pm January 27, 2012

George~

Another way to think about this is…If you look at your discount amount on your last invoice….It would cover the cost of the upgrade control & you still have a old unit when just upgrading the control…

I'm guessing it may be pushing the budget but if you think about the economics…It makes sense (at least to me) to consider a complete new unit for fwd too…

You get all the benefits you now see with the aft unit, you now have 2 new units with warranty, and you have another operational unit (with control) to sell to recoup some of the costs….Operational units with control are much easier to sell than ones without control, and if you wait till the fwd unit has troubles (lets face it…it's getting old too) you may be faced with not being able to sell it, or putting money into it to git rid of it…Of course unless you give it away…

Just a thought I thought I would bring up…I'm happy to sell you the upgrade kit too  Smile

 

Oh…And as far as settings in the Passport…I would at least look at setting fan speeds & time delay…

If the upper fan speed is not calibrated to the install…You may drop 2-3 speeds without noticing any speed change.

Low speed adjustment can lower noise considerably.

Time delay setting helps when shifting from shore to gen or back…Both units will never try to restart at the same time.

 

Steve~ 

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GeorgeH

posts 47

3:17 pm January 27, 2012

Steve,

Makes sense.  After looking at the price of the Passport control by itself I quickly came to the same conclusion.  Although I can't upgrade the fwd unit now, I like the idea.

And I'll make those changes on the control program.

Thanks, George

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Steve Pooler

posts 1127

3:26 pm January 27, 2012

Post edited 3:55 pm – January 27, 2012 by Steve Pooler


Believe me George when I say that you are only one of many, many, others that once they upgraded one system control to digital….

 

They Always want another  Cool

 

Steve~

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Steve Pooler

posts 1127

3:41 pm January 27, 2012

Tips on programming fan speeds:

Before entering the program mode….With the control off…Press & hold the fan button to either 1 or 6 (depending on if you are adjusting low or high)…This runs the fan only so that you can hear your adjustment…Once at speed then enter the program mode.

When adjusting High speed….Lower the reference # till you just hear the motor start to slow (most motors will start to hum a bit) then go back up 3 reference numbers above that point….This assures full voltage but also assures the control is set to lower speed with only one number drop when in normal operation.

When adjusting Low speed…You want it slow enough to be quiet but not so slow that the unit will ice in cool mode…If you find it ices when cooling…Just go back in & raise it up a bit…

Until/Unless you go with another digital control…Time delay is fine at the factory setting…But when adding another digital you don't want them at the same factory delay and should change one to start at least 10 seconds later…

 

Steve~ 

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GeorgeH

posts 47

5:22 pm January 28, 2012

Steve,

It looks like I will need to move the location of the Passport control.  I thought this might be a problem — saw mention of it in the manual…  as I mounted it where my old 3 knob control had been, on the outside of the box that where my generator lives. Had been on shore power until now, but when using the generator the temperature of the control reads higher than the actual cabin temperature by about ten degrees.  So planning to move it to a more temperature neutral area.

George


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